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12:40 pm Bwana McCall: You know, I've been screaming this for days. No one wants to accept that Flash in its current state is bloated?

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1:50 pm Jorge Sierra: Bwana, I agree it is bloated, but it is also ubiquitous (open standard or not).
1:59 pm svartling ™: That's why I think that Apple is doing the right thing. HTML5 is the future.
2:00 pm svartling ™: Oh, and I had some fights here on Buzz about the exact same thing :) Not many is thinking the same :)
2:00 pm svartling ™: I think it's because there is so many Android FanBoys here on Buzz...
2:21 pm Bwana McCall: I can understand disagreement on Apple's decision to not offer a choice to bring your device to its knees, but to ignore Flash's shortcomings, I don't understand. I respect Android enthusiasts because a ton of mobile developers have been waiting for something like this for a long time, but Adobe? Adobe has a LOT of work to do on mobile flash. The rules are very different from the desktop.
2:23 pm Jorge Sierra: Ultimately, HTML5 needs to win the battle. The bottom line is that although some iPhone users may be a little annoyed, they are willing to accept they'll never see Flash on their phones. It's not something that would ever keep anyone from purchasing an iPhone.
2:26 pm Brenda Young: Of course it's bloated and causes all kinds of problems but, I don't think Apple's boycott will make it go away.
2:54 pm Chris Sparno: I saw this post earlier from a twitter mention and while I really do think Apple and Adobe don't "hate" each other, I think it's within Apple's rights to protect the performance and user experience of their platform. Even if you forget about Flash being slow and eating your battery, Apple is more afraid of having a ton of apps that rely on Adobe Flash and then Adobe pulling the plug on Apple-compatible Flash (or having the rest of the world be on version 14.0 and the iPhone version being at version 10 for the next 5 years. It's happened before and Apple is afraid of getting burned yet again. Remember what happened when OS X came out? How long did it take for native Adobe apps to appear. Oh yeah, just now - with the current Creative Suite release. This is what Apple fears - other companies gaining control of the user experience and other companies having the power to "kill" their platform with slow releases/deployments.
2:58 pm Chris Sparno: One more thing (as a former Apple insider): Apple's strength has always been their ability to control "the entire widget", from hardware to software. This is what makes the user experience so unique and so seamless. Apple will do whatever it takes to protect that ecosystem - the reason you will never see iPhone OS on other phones or MacOS on generic PC boxes. Once you abstract hardware from software, the experience tends to decline. Just look at the variances in Android hardware/software and the experiences between Nexus One, HTC Hero, Droid, etc. They all have the same OS but different out of the box user experiences. Apple knows that to stay profitable, they need to maintain control of the entire user experience, from hardware design to software delivery. It's what has brought them from the brink of extinction to a viable profitable company.